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		<title>By: Reindeargirl</title>
		<link>http://www.marcgunther.com/2010/02/21/nukes-why-small-is-beautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-285012</link>
		<dc:creator>Reindeargirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The costs of new nukes are already higher  than wind, and solar is falling while nuclear is rising. Ask the Finns whose reactor being built by nuclear &quot;expert&quot; AREVA is already at huge cost overrun and 2 years behind schedule. We can get where we need to be without any more nuclear. And no one wants to discuss the connection between nuclear power and nuclear bombs. . .yet the commercial nuclear power industry worldwide has managed to create 220 metric tons of weapons usable plutonium, which is really the ultimate worlds terrorist threat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The costs of new nukes are already higher  than wind, and solar is falling while nuclear is rising. Ask the Finns whose reactor being built by nuclear &#8220;expert&#8221; AREVA is already at huge cost overrun and 2 years behind schedule. We can get where we need to be without any more nuclear. And no one wants to discuss the connection between nuclear power and nuclear bombs. . .yet the commercial nuclear power industry worldwide has managed to create 220 metric tons of weapons usable plutonium, which is really the ultimate worlds terrorist threat.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Raftery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Raftery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Tom, You seem to be bubbling with anti-nuclear propaganda. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
And yet again Charles you demonstrate your tendency to insult those with whom you disagree. And this time, not content to insult me (again), you decide to take on British Technology in its entirety. There was lots of British technology in Three Mile Island, was there? Or in Vermont Yankee nuclear reactor which is currently leaking tritium like a sieve - a sieve with some very large holes in it?

&lt;blockquote&gt;even if the Irish sea was “the most radioactive sea in the world” you could still safely swim there and eat the fish that lived there&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Unfortunately Rod, the cancer clusters in Dundalk and the surrounds would disagree with you.

And as you mention lakes and streams downstream of coal-fired power plants - no argument with you there, however, the lakes and streams downstream of uranium mines are often incredibly radioactive - 5400 x normal levels in this Australian example http://www.minesandcommunities.org//article.php?a=9914

Both coal and nuclear are dirty and dangerous and have no place in our safe energy future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Tom, You seem to be bubbling with anti-nuclear propaganda. </p></blockquote>
<p>And yet again Charles you demonstrate your tendency to insult those with whom you disagree. And this time, not content to insult me (again), you decide to take on British Technology in its entirety. There was lots of British technology in Three Mile Island, was there? Or in Vermont Yankee nuclear reactor which is currently leaking tritium like a sieve &#8211; a sieve with some very large holes in it?</p>
<blockquote><p>even if the Irish sea was “the most radioactive sea in the world” you could still safely swim there and eat the fish that lived there</p></blockquote>
<p>Unfortunately Rod, the cancer clusters in Dundalk and the surrounds would disagree with you.</p>
<p>And as you mention lakes and streams downstream of coal-fired power plants &#8211; no argument with you there, however, the lakes and streams downstream of uranium mines are often incredibly radioactive &#8211; 5400 x normal levels in this Australian example <a href="http://www.minesandcommunities.org//article.php?a=9914" rel="nofollow">http://www.minesandcommunities.org//article.php?a=9914</a></p>
<p>Both coal and nuclear are dirty and dangerous and have no place in our safe energy future.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tom - even if the Irish sea was &quot;the most radioactive sea in the world&quot; you could still safely swim there and eat the fish that lived there. The same could not necessarily be said about the lakes and streams downstream of coal fired power plants.

The projected time lines for small nuclear plants could be accelerated with some amount of effort. There was a time when the US government funded a small reactor project aimed at designed, manufacturing and installing a heat and power generation machine under the ice at Camp Century, Greenland. http://www.thuleforum.com/alconotebook.htm

From the time that it was funded until the time that it was operating in that remote location and keeping people alive in a very harsh climate was just 18 months. Back then, engineers worked on paper and used slide rules. 

Do we really believe that technology would not allow at least equal performance today? We need to change the stupid, human imposed rules that ensure continued prosperity for the coal, oil and gas companies and move forward with energy innovation that offers as much room for improvement as the transistor did in electronics and microprocessor compared to vacuum tubes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tom &#8211; even if the Irish sea was &#8220;the most radioactive sea in the world&#8221; you could still safely swim there and eat the fish that lived there. The same could not necessarily be said about the lakes and streams downstream of coal fired power plants.</p>
<p>The projected time lines for small nuclear plants could be accelerated with some amount of effort. There was a time when the US government funded a small reactor project aimed at designed, manufacturing and installing a heat and power generation machine under the ice at Camp Century, Greenland. <a href="http://www.thuleforum.com/alconotebook.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.thuleforum.com/alconotebook.htm</a></p>
<p>From the time that it was funded until the time that it was operating in that remote location and keeping people alive in a very harsh climate was just 18 months. Back then, engineers worked on paper and used slide rules. </p>
<p>Do we really believe that technology would not allow at least equal performance today? We need to change the stupid, human imposed rules that ensure continued prosperity for the coal, oil and gas companies and move forward with energy innovation that offers as much room for improvement as the transistor did in electronics and microprocessor compared to vacuum tubes.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Barton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Barton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 22:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, You seem to be bubbling with anti-nuclear propaganda.  First numerous peer reviewed life-cycke studies of nuclear power have concluded that nuclear emits no more CO2 than wind and less than solar PV.  The problems at Sellafield were problems with British technology, that no one plans to use in the United States, or for that matter in the UK,  The United States EIA reports that the levelized cost of nuclear power plants to be completed in 2016 will actually be lower than the levelized cost of wind facilities with equivalent output.  Nuclear is not only a better choice than coal, it is a better choice than wind!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, You seem to be bubbling with anti-nuclear propaganda.  First numerous peer reviewed life-cycke studies of nuclear power have concluded that nuclear emits no more CO2 than wind and less than solar PV.  The problems at Sellafield were problems with British technology, that no one plans to use in the United States, or for that matter in the UK,  The United States EIA reports that the levelized cost of nuclear power plants to be completed in 2016 will actually be lower than the levelized cost of wind facilities with equivalent output.  Nuclear is not only a better choice than coal, it is a better choice than wind!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Raftery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Raftery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tbh Mark,

They both emit massive amounts of CO2 and radiation (just at different stages in the process).

Coal does further emit arsenic, mercury, selenium and other not so pleasant toxins, to be sure but then I am from Ireland and I well remember when the Irish Sea was the most radioactive sea in the world as a result of emissions from the UK&#039;s Sellafield Nuclear Power plant.

I don&#039;t think you should be framing it as a choice between coal and nuclear - both are poor choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tbh Mark,</p>
<p>They both emit massive amounts of CO2 and radiation (just at different stages in the process).</p>
<p>Coal does further emit arsenic, mercury, selenium and other not so pleasant toxins, to be sure but then I am from Ireland and I well remember when the Irish Sea was the most radioactive sea in the world as a result of emissions from the UK&#8217;s Sellafield Nuclear Power plant.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you should be framing it as a choice between coal and nuclear &#8211; both are poor choices.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair point, Tom. These are all unproven ideas. 

But let&#039;s consider the safety comparison between nuclear and coal--I&#039;m no safety expert but my vote goes to nuclear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair point, Tom. These are all unproven ideas. </p>
<p>But let&#8217;s consider the safety comparison between nuclear and coal&#8211;I&#8217;m no safety expert but my vote goes to nuclear.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Raftery</title>
		<link>http://www.marcgunther.com/2010/02/21/nukes-why-small-is-beautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-284322</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Raftery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;Blockquote&gt; If anyone tells you they know what building a new nuclear power plant is going to cost, be skeptical. &lt;/Blockquote&gt;

Sure, and if anyone tells you nuclear is going to be safe, be sceptical too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> If anyone tells you they know what building a new nuclear power plant is going to cost, be skeptical. </p></blockquote>
<p>Sure, and if anyone tells you nuclear is going to be safe, be sceptical too!</p>
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