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	<title>Comments on: Kites, Coal and Waxman-Markey</title>
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		<title>By: Mandy</title>
		<link>http://www.marcgunther.com/2009/06/07/kites-coal-and-waxman-markey/comment-page-1/#comment-238812</link>
		<dc:creator>Mandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heating and cooling is the largest user of energy in a house. If the goverment mandated geothermal systems in new houses, the energy use by each house could be cut in half.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heating and cooling is the largest user of energy in a house. If the goverment mandated geothermal systems in new houses, the energy use by each house could be cut in half.</p>
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		<title>By: James Handley</title>
		<link>http://www.marcgunther.com/2009/06/07/kites-coal-and-waxman-markey/comment-page-1/#comment-237851</link>
		<dc:creator>James Handley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, excellent post. You wrote, &quot;The right price signals will do wonders to change people’s habits...&quot;  That&#039;s exactly what the growing number of revenue-neutral carbon tax advocates are saying.  See http://www.carbontax.org.

Economist Rob Shapiro makes the case quite forcefully here:

http://www.climatetaskforce.org/2009/06/the-downfall-of-the-waxman-markey-bill-politics-as-usual-meets-climate-change/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, excellent post. You wrote, &#8220;The right price signals will do wonders to change people’s habits&#8230;&#8221;  That&#8217;s exactly what the growing number of revenue-neutral carbon tax advocates are saying.  See <a href="http://www.carbontax.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.carbontax.org</a>.</p>
<p>Economist Rob Shapiro makes the case quite forcefully here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.climatetaskforce.org/2009/06/the-downfall-of-the-waxman-markey-bill-politics-as-usual-meets-climate-change/" rel="nofollow">http://www.climatetaskforce.org/2009/06/the-downfall-of-the-waxman-markey-bill-politics-as-usual-meets-climate-change/</a></p>
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		<title>By: What does Waxman-Markey have to say about kites? &#171; Knowledge Problem</title>
		<link>http://www.marcgunther.com/2009/06/07/kites-coal-and-waxman-markey/comment-page-1/#comment-231774</link>
		<dc:creator>What does Waxman-Markey have to say about kites? &#171; Knowledge Problem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] answer to the title question is &#8220;nothing,&#8221; according to Marc Gunther (though he admits of the difficulty of being certain when the bill is 932 pages and still in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] answer to the title question is &#8220;nothing,&#8221; according to Marc Gunther (though he admits of the difficulty of being certain when the bill is 932 pages and still in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Santos</title>
		<link>http://www.marcgunther.com/2009/06/07/kites-coal-and-waxman-markey/comment-page-1/#comment-231704</link>
		<dc:creator>David Santos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Marc,
You are correct about the perils of government intervention in technology choices, with one giant loop-hole; you are &quot;all in favor of(&quot;defence oriented&quot;)basic research&quot;. Good luck with that gambling strategy, its failure-mode is facism.

Makani&#039;s current concept is essentially a B-2 Bomber on a string. The corporate oriented developers have extensive military R&amp;D links &amp; have already begun partnership with US govt. If you research the Airborne Wind Energy (AWE) field you may find far better kite bets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Marc,<br />
You are correct about the perils of government intervention in technology choices, with one giant loop-hole; you are &#8220;all in favor of(&#8220;defence oriented&#8221;)basic research&#8221;. Good luck with that gambling strategy, its failure-mode is facism.</p>
<p>Makani&#8217;s current concept is essentially a B-2 Bomber on a string. The corporate oriented developers have extensive military R&amp;D links &amp; have already begun partnership with US govt. If you research the Airborne Wind Energy (AWE) field you may find far better kite bets.</p>
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		<title>By: CTF</title>
		<link>http://www.marcgunther.com/2009/06/07/kites-coal-and-waxman-markey/comment-page-1/#comment-231639</link>
		<dc:creator>CTF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 10:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really interesting post.  I have many of the same concerns that you&#039;ve discussed here and can only hope that Ways and Means takes a serious look at a revenue-neutral carbon tax in the near future...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really interesting post.  I have many of the same concerns that you&#8217;ve discussed here and can only hope that Ways and Means takes a serious look at a revenue-neutral carbon tax in the near future&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Manzi</title>
		<link>http://www.marcgunther.com/2009/06/07/kites-coal-and-waxman-markey/comment-page-1/#comment-231486</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Manzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 23:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I&#039;m the Jim manzi who wrote the NR article you mention, but I am not the former CEo of Lotus.

This is a really thoughtful post.  I&#039;ll encourage you to think of the Hayekian knowledge problem at a higher level of abstraction.  Humanity will face numerous threats over the next several centuries, why would we intervene in markets to force re-allocation of resources?  Rationally, because we have good evidence that that there is a HUGE externality that could feasibly be addressed by intervention.  Rhetoric around this issue indicates that one exists for AGW.  As I tried to get into in the article, but have much more detail on in other places, if we take the IPCC as authoritative for the moment, this problem just doesn&#039;t look close to existential for centuries. 

Best,
Jim Manzi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m the Jim manzi who wrote the NR article you mention, but I am not the former CEo of Lotus.</p>
<p>This is a really thoughtful post.  I&#8217;ll encourage you to think of the Hayekian knowledge problem at a higher level of abstraction.  Humanity will face numerous threats over the next several centuries, why would we intervene in markets to force re-allocation of resources?  Rationally, because we have good evidence that that there is a HUGE externality that could feasibly be addressed by intervention.  Rhetoric around this issue indicates that one exists for AGW.  As I tried to get into in the article, but have much more detail on in other places, if we take the IPCC as authoritative for the moment, this problem just doesn&#8217;t look close to existential for centuries. </p>
<p>Best,<br />
Jim Manzi</p>
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		<title>By: Kites, Coal and Waxman-Markey &#124; solarenergyforhome.info</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 21:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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